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'Spreading The Love' Kahoona Competition- Kite Review

Postby Joeri Peeters » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:58 pm

Kite Model: Waroo 08
Kite size: 9
Bar: 2008
Riding conditions: Choppy and flat water
Rider Weight: 65kg
Board: Spark 08

Kite Package: The kite is all-over complete. When I bought my first kite it has all the required accessories to begin learning kiteboarding.


Build Quality and finish: I think it’s made of extremely high quality materials because I did some stupid things in the beginning and my kite is still not broken at any part. The finish of the products is also well-done at Best kiteboarding.


Handling: Waroo 08 is easy to use for beginners up to all levels of kiteboarding, Safety system works perfectly even as the technology of dual-depower bar. Setup of the kite cannot be easier then the Waroo, it has red and blue lines to connect with each other. Pack-down is done in minutes.

Key Product features: One of the most important features is the wide wind range of waroo 08. And the ABC Custom Tune is a very well feature that’s classic to Best Kiteboarding!

Performance: I can tell about performance of the Waroo: The Waroo rides very well upwind, jumping sky high if you want, and depower enough to ride at any wind condition, with the ABC Custom Tune you can adjust turning speed by yourself.


Suitability: This kite suits me and every other rider who likes riding comfortable, I think all kind of riders enjoy this all-round kite, whether it’s a beginner or a pro-rider!


Improvements: I don’t have any comments or complaints about the Waroo 08!


Conclusion: I am happy with my Waroo 08, enjoy every time again when I start a new session on the water!
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Nemesis 10m 09

Postby kitebaja » Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:39 pm

Kite Model: Nemesis 09
Kite size: 10
Bar: 55
Riding conditions: All
Rider Weight: 110kg
Board: Float 135

Kite Package: Bag is not that nice, cant take out the mesh, and cant close it nicely with very loose cover. Nice improvement is wider bag so kite is at least easy to fit in


Build Quality and finish: Made from un/usual best materials, as most other top end kites . Cuben leading edge looks solid


Handling: Safety very good with many options from beginner to advanced set up
Relaunch easy enough but could be better, set up and pack-down easy, very good valves, no need for 1 pump.


Key Product features: Feel of the kite in flight, with exact amount of bar pressure, speed, lift, turning, has to be tried to understand fully
Mega jumps when powered!


Performance: Fantastic upwind, explosive C like, super high jumping with very good glide and depower , power per size even better.
10m even with my weight with right board is now my main kite. Turning speed in this size perfect with 55 bar
Even on high wind speeds over 30 knots there are no signs of canopy deforming or inverting.
Very solid in gusts.
Nemesis 09 handles exactly as Waroo.
So mixed quiver is perfectly OK.
It also turns with similar speed
But it has much more lift and upwind is excellent
Kite prefers its upper range
In low winds Waroo is better choice except in total flat water.

Suitability: Advanced would enjoy this kite the most.
Second lift HAS to be experienced!!
I tried many kites but since C kites I didn’t get this rush jumping!
And all that with safety of SLE!
You jump mega high when powered, and when you think it is really, really high, you redirect kite and get some more!
And than you remain a bit suspended there, waiting for that super soft lending due to all the lift.

Improvements:A bit less back stall when underpowered.
Powered properly there is no back stall at all.


Conclusion: This kite in this size is a FORMULA 1 of kites! WOW!
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'Spreading The Love' Kahoona Competition- Kite Review

Postby earthsurfer69 » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:38 am

Kite Model: 2004 BEST Yarga

Kite size: 16.5m

Bar: Super old skool Wipika Free Air bar. I converted it to 4 lines. And the Velcro wrist strap for safety, without an emergency release, is o.g. orig-in-al! It is absolutely dangerous, and mostly embarrassing.

Riding conditions: Flat chop and small waves with good winds generally in the winter. It does blow every day in spring through fall about 10-25 knots but its pretty crazy with the gusting. Summer is mostly light and variable, but good when it’s good.

Rider Weight: 150 lbs.

Board: 2006 North Jaime Pro

Kite Package: List your opinion on the overall kite package, accessories and spares etc? My kite “package” consisted of a 16.5m Best Yarga kite. That’s it. And it couldn’t have come at a better time considering the fact that my only kite was a 7m Wipika (yeah, seriously). And besides that, it had just gotten shredded when I put it on shore and a tree blew down on top of it. A fellow kite buddy had just gotten the buy 2 get 1 free deal, and ended up with one 16.5m kite that he didn’t order from Real in Hatteras. I snatched that beyatch up. I bought that kite over the phone from Trip Foreman, with my credit card, while standing on the beach. Best purchase I ever made.

Build Quality and finish: How is it made, what is it made of, how does it last? By hand, machine, and a mixture of both. Ensured to specific quality specifications. Teijin nylon rip stop canopy, with triple stitched, webbing taped, Load Flexed seams, as well as continuous reinforcement zones. All of these quality materials and new technologies are responsible for the duration of the kite. Quality T.L.C. helps too. I am extremely careful to keep the kite clean and tuned.

Handling: Ease of use, safety, relaunch, set up and pack-down? It is a C kite, and a large one for that matter, so it takes some getting used to. I am very comfortable with the kite because I’ve had it for a while now and have used it in many conditions, and many locations such as Hatteras, San Diego, Tampa, Cozumel, and Quepos Costa Rica. My Safety system is as bad as it gets. No real excuse besides I’m broke. I have a “special kite fund” envelope in my drawer dedicated to a new bar, but why not just have positive goals and go for the whole deal? Kite, Bar, Etc.? Baby steps. Besides all that, setting the thing up is like butta, but I hate breaking it down. I usually deflate the LE and roll it up till I get home and then I put her to sleep.


Key Product features: What are the standout features, what do they do, why are they important to you? The absolute number one feature with this kite has to be the craftsmanship. Or the material. Or both. Whatever makes the kite last through my abuse for almost 5 years. That’s not seasons either, its years. I use the kite for both winter and summer so it gets lots of use which is very important to me.


Performance: How does it perform, upwind, jumping, depower, turning? It rips!! I have a lot of fun with this kite. Sometimes I get that overpowered feeling, which is cool, but the inability to correct some of that power through the bar is a little nerve racking. It’s that whole bad bar thing again. The kite is great upwind, but it is a little slow in turning. Maybe I’m not ripping it hard enough?


Suitability: How does this kite suit your riding, what type of rider would enjoy it? Like I said, I’m very comfortable with this kite and feel I have a pretty good idea of what it is capable of. I enjoy using this kite as much as possible, but miss on a lot of days because of seriously windy conditions and it’s the only kite I have. It is extremely user friendly, but has hidden power to be discovered. Rated for Beginner through Advanced I’d say.

Improvements: How would you improve the kite, what would make it perfect? 5 years of new technology has improved the kites. Maybe a one pump system for all models. Besides that I wouldn’t change much. And to make it perfect it needs a steady 15-20 kn. wind somewhere warm with lots of chicks, and my girlfriend.


Conclusion: Overall thoughts on the kite I completely swear by this kite. I have referred many people to Bests products because of this kite specifically. I NEED more. 2 more actually. Small, medium, and I already have a large. Kite that is. I plan to get a new Best kite regardless if I win it or not, it’s just the $ factor. I’m working to pay bills from my attempt at living on the beach for a year, and going to school to get all educated so I can get you guys an application going. This having one kite thing is affecting the learning curve if you know what I’m saying and it’s a damn shame. So please hook a brotha up!!!

P.S. Thanks again for developing some of the coolest kiting products out there that keep me going in this crazy experience we call life.

P.S.S. www.myspace.com/surfinearth for some pictures of the action.
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Postby sq225917 » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:06 pm

Nice reviews guys, we were just discussing how light on pictures this thread was, we had been expecting all sorts of neat supporting materials to help you win those Kahoonas...

it's almost as if we make it too easy..... :wink:
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Postby NICKM » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:52 pm

i took your advice sq and threw in some goodies with mine.
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Kite Review for Kahoona Giveaway

Postby Noa2Dope » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:02 pm

Kite Model: 2006 Yarga Pro, C-Kite series
Kite size: 11, 13, 15, 17
Bar: 20"/50cm with 25M lines and 5th-line
Riding conditions: flat water to 5' waves (Lake Michigan), and on snow
Wind speeds: ranging from 10 to 28 knots
Rider Weight: 165 lbs/ 75 kg
Board: 122cm twin tip up to 5'11" directional, and Summit 157cm

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I'm a C-kite hold out, in an SLE world.
As long as the wind is under 25 knots, that is.

KITE PACKAGE:
List your opinion on the overall kite package, accessories and spares etc?

The Yarga Pro kites arrived with a simple yet effective expandable back-pack bag. The bag appears to be the same as the 2005 Yarga bag, only with a new color scheme and graphics. Each kite included a double action hand pump (Wylie Coyote TNT detonator type), a 5th-line leader, and a small bladder patch kit containing 5 or so patches to cover pinhole bladder punctures.

the bag:
To begin, the '06 Yarga Pro kite bag has two chambers that allow for expansion. Both the bottom and top can be opened up in such a fashion as to allow the rolled kite with inflated struts to remain enclosed at both ends by extended mesh compartments. The bag has a good sized front pocket, which I find works well for housing extra water wear, other soft items, and even beverages.

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The bag also has four cinch straps on the outside corners, which can be used to constrict and condense the kite and bag size to save space for storage. Each of the cinch straps has a plastic snap buckle, and I've find these very useful for securing my bar and pump to the outside of the bag, when hiking to the launch setup area.

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Finally, there are two open top mesh pouches on the sides of the bag for holding other odds and ends. I usually use them for holding other people's plastic trash or empty cans that I pick up, when leaving the beach.

My Endorsements:
I am very much a fan of expandable bags. During a day of kiteboarding, I will often swap out kites as conditions change. I usually deflate the leading edge and roll the kite with the struts inflated. I'll close the kite in the expanded bag to avoid mechanical wear and tear from flapping in the wind and to minimize UV exposure. Many times I'll throw a beach towel over the mesh portion of the expanded bag.

I am also a true fan of bags that give my kite a bit of breathing room. In the event, I do a hasty or sloppy pack job, I don't particularly like the idea or feeling of jamming and smashing my kites into a bag that is too tight. I will also note that even with lower portion of the Yarga Pro bags expanded, they do not hang obnoxiously low while walking and wearing them as a back-pack.

Criticisms & Concerns:
The 11M kite bag is too tight! This is more a problem of being too narrow, not really a depth problem. After inspecting the bags it appears to me that the bag sizes only change every two kite sizes, so the 9-11 kites go in the same size, 13-15, 17-??. In my opinion the bag for the 11M was too small for the kite, but all the other bags in my quiver seem plenty big.

Also, the kites were shipped with trashy plastic shaft pumps. These arrived with dried out gaskets that would peel off the bead, and were pretty much useless. Fortunately, I had a couple of aluminum shaft pumps from my BEST kite purchases from the years prior.
That's about it.

BUILD QUALITY AND FINISH:
How is it made, what is it made of, how does it last?

The Yarga Pro kites have a very different construction than the 2005 Yarga. First off, the '06 kites are made with a more regular rectangular strip assembly, as opposed to the triangular facets of the 05 kites.

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The kites have Cuben Fiber on the interior of the leading edge and all the struts, in addition to having wing tips composed entirely of the Cuben Fiber material. At first glance the leading edge and struts appear to be normal Dacron, however if you look inside the bladder access zipper, you can see the laminate material. Also, you can feel bladder housings are very stiff compared to a regular Dacron bladder housing. Another difference from the 05 kites is that there are two main seams running along the segmented leading edge as opposed to one seam on the 05, and both seams on the 06 are very beefed up. The kite canopy is just normal rip-stop nylon fabric as far as I can tell.

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Finally, the inflation system on the kites is comprised of a "space age" 6-pump system, with a secondary dump valve on the leading edge. All the inflation valves use stopper balls to keep the air in, while inserting the push-in type plug/ air caps.

My Endorsements:
how does it last?? Very well thank you.

After over 2 years and some months of rotating through the different sizes of my Yarga Pro kites, I will say that they are holding up quite beautifully. As I mentioned, I believe in prolonging the life of my kites as best I can, this also includes only riding my C-kites with a 5th-line system. I feel very wholeheartedly that this saves the trailing edge from a lot stress during self landings when compared to a rear steering line ditch system.

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Up to this point, I have yet to have a leaky valve plug and or any problems with the quality of the ball valves (not the case w/ my 07 Waroos). I am a true fan of the plugs and valves on this kite, they are in my opinion "perfect".

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One more thing to note, is that I always store all my kites with all the plugs pulled out, in the hopes to prolong and not stretch out the valves, keeping them as tight sealing for as long as possible.

So far (2 yrs and 4 months later) I have no criticism or concerns when it comes to the construction of these kites.

HANDLING:
Ease of use, safety, relaunch, set up and pack-down?

In terms of set up, the Yarga Pro kites may be the easiest C-kites that I have ever used. The fact that the leading edge and struts are very narrow diameter is immediately apparent when pumping up even the 17M kite. Having the smaller diameter tubes not only speeds up pumping time, but it also makes folding the kite wing tip during a self launch that much easier. One other thing that I've found is that it requires far less sand to secure than any other C-kite that I've owned, which is helpful for light wind self launches.

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On the topic of relaunch and safety, a 5th-line set-up is my only tried and true C-kite safety system. In marginal and low wind conditions, a 5th-line will give a downed C-kite the very best chance for a relaunch. I believe this system out performs SLE and BOW kites for light wind relaunch-ability.

Finally on pack down, the smaller diameter tubes speed up deflation, requiring only a quick pinch to unseat the ball valves, and the kite practically deflates itself.


KEY PRODUCT FEATURES:
What are the standout features, what do they do, why are they important to you?

Did I mention Cuben Fiber, yet? I don't want to sound like a BEST fanboy, but I will say that in the case of these kites, the Cuben Fiber really works. First off, I'm told without it, the narrow diameter tubes would not be possible. Also the Cuben Fiber on the wing tips serves two purposes, in my view. One of which is helping the kite fly with very smooth action in the canopy, even during the tightest of cranked sining turns and kite loops. The second benefit is the longevity of the canopy by protecting against stretching out, which happened to all my 2004 Fuels.

I am more impressed with these Yarga Pros than the 2006 and 07 Naish Torches that I've ridden along side of. I've watched the Torches trailing edge near the wing tips chatter violently during maneuvers similar to the ones I put my kites through without even a hint of flutter. I very happy with this one trait alone.

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PERFORMANCE:
How does it perform, upwind, jumping, depower, turning?

As I mentioned, the kites have very smooth flight characteristics. All the sizes I own have great stability and have a wonderfully reliable pull for all of my albeit wussy unhook moves. It seems to me that the upwind performance on the kites is also helped by the low drag small tube design. I'll also say the bar pressure and turning speed with the 50cm control bar works well for me, from the 11M up through the 17M.

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Criticisms & Concerns:
I believe the one major down fall of these kites may also be due in part to that narrow leading edge tube design. Who woulda thunk it? The Yarga Pro kites are very prone to over fly the edge of the wind window, and drift into a stall to windward. This only really occurs when being flown at the edge of the window from a stationary position or while walking up wind. I believe this can happen even with the most experienced rider/pilot, if the wind is gusty/shifty.

Where I ride, even on the gusty days in the wind range of my kite quiver, I find the kites still perform great, and keep me very content. The Yarga Pro kites will continue to be my first choice when I want to get out and do some riding with THE C-kite feel.

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SUITABILITY:
How does this kite suit your riding, what type of rider would enjoy it?

Before I bought the kites, I asked a number people about them, since the pricing offered was so obscenely cheap. Fire sale cheap.

I got mixed reviews from BEST haters, the indifferent, and BEST riders and supporters. While one individual claimed the kites didn't fly right at all, others thought they flew well, but claimed the sizes over 13M were done poorly, and had major performance problems. I found none of the trash talk to be true, unless you count the tendency to over fly, which I find can be kept to a minimum relatively easily. I find the larger sizes jump extraordinarily well compared to what I am use to.

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Going back to the 'over flying' issue, I believe this causes the Yarga Pro kites to be poorly suited for areas where gusty conditions are experienced regularly. Furthermore, I think they are not very well suited for beginners who do not have a good sense for the edges of the wind window or the coordination for counteracting forward motion i.e. fast hands to get more rear line tension. Also these kites are not ideal for those who must walk upwind on crowded beaches, since there could be a real threat of having the kite drop on bystanders.

Criticisms & Concerns:
See above
That's about it.


IMPROVEMENTS:
How would you improve the kite, what would make it perfect?

I can't really recommend a way to improve the kites, since BEST decided to drop its entire line of C-kites claiming they don't sell well anymore.

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I'm flying a dinosaur, and it's awesome.

If the kites were to be remade, I think I'd prefer they stay the way they are, unless the stability against over flying could be improved without compromising the rest of the kite handling characteristics.

CONCLUSION:
Overall thoughts on the kite

The kites are still working great for me, although I have nothing against getting a chance to try out BEST's new Kahoona delta design and then keep it for personal use.

To BEST: maybe you could get one or two Kahoonas to Michigan for our Northern Michigan Snow Kiting event.

http://www.tckitederby.com/KiteDerby09/Home.html

I've got an enthusiastic photographer who would be very happy to show the world (edit: again) what the new Kahoona kites are all about. She is also in need of a bigger beginner friendly kite, as she's only been able to practice on snow with my 7M Waroo and will be transferring over to water in the spring.

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All photographs in this review were taken on location in
West Michigan, and all text written by Noah Penn - the rider pictured.

Final note, I scaled my pictures to a 604 pixel width, in order to
keep the text margins from blowing up. It's just a thought.

Thanks.
Water: Team-C Yargas 9/11/13/15M
Snow: Summit 157
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Postby FranP » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:52 pm

the best reviews will be submited in the last two days of the contest

...this is like eBay's auctions with limited time ... best offers came at the end of the period.

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winning the big Kahoona

Postby crazy croat » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:18 am

Kite Model: 09 HP Nemesis
Kite size: 12m
Bar: 4 line Best bar
Riding conditions: surf 18-32 knots
Rider Weight: 104Kg
Board: 6ft 4” Surftech Tuflite surfboard :grin:

Kite Package: The overall package was excellent, an extra chicken rope would be the only improvement I could suggest.
Build Quality and finish:The kite is well built and has not needed any repairs. Colours have not faded so my Mrs. can still spot me (not sure this an advantage)
Handling: The kite is so easy to use, I don’t need to relaunch. The only time I dropped it in the surf was after a sonic boom from an F111 scared my Best boardshorts right off me. My grandmother could relaunch it from the safety of her electric scooter! The kite has many brilliant safety features I’m surprised Volvo don’t make it. It is also quick and easy to set up. Self landing and self launching is a breeze.
Key Product features: The kite has amazing turning speed in the air and this alone makes it stand out from the crowd. In the ocean it means everything to be able to surf the waves and know the kite is where you want it to be.
Performance: The kite is fast through the air and fantastic for staying upwind. No need to do downwinders as surfing down the line and triangulating are easy with this kite.
Suitability:This kite is ideal for wave riders of all abilities.
Improvements:The kite is perfect for my ability and the conditions where I surf.
Conclusion:The Best Nemesis HP is by far the best kite I have owned and I am looking forward to next years release.
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Postby iggy » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:51 pm

I own a bularoo 16 mts,waroo 13 mts (2008),waroo 9 mts (2008).
Now this is not a review but rather a sort of complaint jejeje.
I mostly do snowkiting in winter cause during summer I do surfing here in Montreal, Canada...yes you read well surfing,more specifically river surfing in the St Lawrence river. We have a standing wave that breaks endlessly and has 1.7 mts in height.
Anyways returning to my original point, two things I have to point out:
1)Waroos are said to be all terrain kites,perfect for snow,land and water. If so,why don't you put some extra protection on the leading edge??? Like the bularoos. Crashing and sliding the kite on the snow is something that WILL happen so why don't protect the kite a bit better?? Both my kites,the tissue where the pannels are sawn on the leading edge,are getting all scuffed and "unthreaded". I know at this point you are going to say that the kite should be on the air and not on the ground but believe me ,those kites rarely touches the ground unless I'm self launching.
2)With the VP2 briddle system,sometimes happens that the the briddle gets entangled with the lines after a crash... anyway to improve that???.Other than that this kites are unbelievably easy to handle, really responsive and the hangtime...endless!!!. My bularoo 16 is like A BUS ON STEROIDS!!!!!So powerfull and surprisingly responsive for its size!!!!.
When there is no wind and everybody else is barbecueing on the side... well I'm having fun.
Between all my 3 kites, the one I like the most is the waroo 9mts.In fact I just came back right now for a little session on a new spot with 40 km/h (gusts up to 60 km/h) winds I was popping humongous airs,the biggest ever for me (on my 9).
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Postby fix78 » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:50 pm

Kite Model: Kahoona
Kite size: 9.5
Bar: 45 redline bar
Riding conditions: gusty, 10-30 at the time I tried, flat shallow water.



Rider Weight: 152
Board: Nobile NHP 2009 131*40

Kite Package: List your opinion on the overall kite package, accessories and spares etc?
The Kalooha bag for the 9.5 seems to be a bit small, it really just fit the kite. I got used to the HP bag where I could fit a lot of stuff,
Wetsuit, two kites etc..

Build Quality and finish: How is it made, what is it made of, how does it last?
The kahoona I tried was brand new so I cannot talk about longevity but it seems really well built, no thread coming out like on my HPs. Really well built


Handling: Ease of use, safety, relaunch, set up and pack-down?

Ok compared to the (2008) HP, the relaunch is a breeze, it’s amazing, just wait and the kite will pivot and go to the side of the window. Just grab the bar, and the kite will relaunch.
Set up was done for me as well as pack down but with only four struts I can’t imagine it took too long.

The kite is really steady and solid in the sky but is a smaller kite than the HP. I took my 9 HP and the 9.5 Kahoona back to back. The HP is a lot faster and reacts much more vigorously to gusts. The kahoona swallows the gusts compared to the HP. The stability of this kite is impressive.
Even though I am used to my HPs, I felt a lot more in control with the Kahoona.
When looping the kite, an HP will turn around the wingtip when the Kahoona turns more on its center.

When turning from heelside to toeside, I need to start hedging quickly to not catch up with the HP, the Kahoona sits further back in the window and follow your movement. It definitely should be better for wave riding.

Finally there is definitely more bar pressure than on the HPs but it’s not unbearable at all. The redline bar I had did not have a stopper ball. A stopper ball would be nice when just cruising around to rest your arms.


Key Product features: What are the standout features, what do they do, why are they important to you?

The relaunch was really amazing, the simplicity of the kite, no pulleys, well built.
The white Kahoona is beautiful.


Performance: How does it perform, upwind, jumping, depower, turning?

The Kahoona doesn’t go upwind as well as the HP, but well enough.
The low end seems to be really good as well, At one point today, the wind died, I was the only one left on the water, and still going upwind. Granted, I am light, but that tells a lot.
The Depower is really direct and quick. As mentioned, gusts are barely felt since you just push the bar a little to let them go through.
The kites turns fast but more on its center than the HP.
Now jumping… that was the very impressive part, super high and floaty jumps. A lot more than with my HP.
It took me a few jump to getting used to the fact that I was spending a lot more time in the air and higher than with the HP. My backroll transitions became double backroll transition but not by choice, just because it was going much higher than I thought.
The

Suitability: How does this kite suit your riding, what type of rider would enjoy it?

I think anyone who wants stability and ease of use over pure performance would love this kite.
I loved my HPs until I met Kahoona. This kite seems perfect for me, freeride, jumping, etc.
I am at the point where I am going to start kiteloops and unhooked tricks to I can’t really say if I should keep my HPs or switch to the Kahoonas.
But at the end of today, I want a Kahoona.

Improvements: How would you improve the kite, what would make it perfect?

Maybe make it turn a bit faster without losing in stability

Conclusion: Overall thoughts on the kite

I loved the stability of this kite, the way it handles gust, its relaunch and the increadibly high and floaty jumps, just pull the bar and you will go up, it’s likea trigger.
I love it.
The 9.5 may become my one kite quiver.
HP Nemesis 9m
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Postby aishahillbilly » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:33 pm

Kite Model: Waroo 07
Kite size: 11 in tough pink
Bar: 55cm w/ 25m lines
Riding conditions: sherman island, so naturally tip-top
Rider Weight: 180 to 190 depending on frequency of restroom visits
Board: Aggression 132 and Spleen Door 54

Kite Package:
it’s a kite. All one needs is a bar

Build Quality and finish:
To be fair, I have beaten the number2 out of this kite. I got it in winter 06 right as it came out and started crashing it immediately. To analogize, this kite has been ridden harder than Jenna Jamison and still looks pretty good all things considered. Although, the pink is starting to fade on my kite, Jenna still appears to be maintaining her respective colour. Perhaps my kite is not as tough as Jenna’s genitals, but lets face it, we all know kites are fragile and not designed for too much abuse. In sum, I have nothing but praise to sing for the durability of my 11m. It has been ridden probably over 80 days and is still flying perfectly.


Handling:
Of all the kites I have flown, the waroo (particularly the 11’s) are the easiest to fly b/c of the obscene amount of depower. I can ride controllably at 12 knots on a big board all the way to 35 knots. Let’s be honest. It kicks tits!

Key Product features:
As above, my favourite two features are the huge depower, which is great for the waves, and the price, which is easy on the pocketbook

Performance:
As good as anything I have ever flown and better than most. You can go huge and land butter soft.

Suitability:
Great for almost everyone save unhooked. I think it is best in the surf where you need the most depower you can get and for the average person who wants to have fun.


Improvements: How would you improve the kite, what would make it perfect?
A one-pump similar to slingshot’s with external hoses (makes for easier bladder replacement.

Conclusion: At this point there is no reason for 95% of kiters to be using anything other than this kite. As I said, it kicks tits.
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Postby ThePerchik » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:37 pm

I always wondered what a divorce feels like…I was in love with my HP’s. I would think of them when I was at work and couldn’t wait to pump them up at the beach. And on Feb 8 2009 I happened to meet the Kahoona and everything changed.

Kite Model: 2009 Kahoona
Kite size: 11.5 M
Bar: 2009 50cm RedLine Bar
Riding conditions: Shallow almost flat water. Sandy Hook, NJ with very low tide. Wind was N at about 18MPH with lulls at low teens and the gusts at the upper 20’s. I was riding at the time highlighted by the green box in the attached wind chart.
Rider Weight: 255 pounds of pure kiteboarder
Board: 150x45 RRD BS3

Kite Package:
The kite bag is nice. I really like the color. It looks a bit more compact then the oversized HP bags. The kite itself was just gorgeous. I was on the white kite and there were nice silver markings on the struts. It was really nice. The bar was a modified 2009 bar. All the magic was in the changes to the center lines, the red-line, and the new depower/power starts. (Discussed below).

Build Quality and finish:
The build quality looked good as is the standard for all the new kites coming out by BEST. There is no center strut so there are additional patches on the canopy to prevent any damage that could be done by the inflate/deflate valves on the LE against a flapping canopy as the kite sits on the beach (There is no flapping in the air). The inflate valve on the LE had a stopper ball. The valves on the struts had membranes (LOVE THE MEMBRANES). The kite is decorated very nicely. The struts had subtle designs on them. The central logo was in a big circle and it looks cool as the kite would turn it gave it that pivoting look.

Handling:
Setup was as usual. I found it odd that the kite did not have a leash for the pump. I Just hooked into the bridle so not a big deal. The second you launch the kite you realize it is a very different beast. The kite has great bar pressure. It is more than the HP but it is not so much to give you tennis elbow. You really feel where the kite is at all times. The kite turns very well. It is tight turning and very responsive. The relaunch is very quick and easy. The kite literally just pivots and pops off the water. It is very stable in the air as well. On a few occasions I over shot the kite when jumping and crashed. I would look up and see it just sailing back into the wind window with the lines fully slack. And then POP, back to normal and waiting at the edge of the window. With slack lines it also turned very well as I went downwind too much on transitions.

Key Product features:
The bridle is very interesting. The front bridle is very minimal and I don’t think it can wrap around the kite or its tips. The front bridal has one pulley and one ring on each side. The real bridle is literally a 6 inch line with two knots. The new bar setup is very nice. The new depower/power straps are easily within reach and very easy to get to. They are also attached to the center line and to each other so they cannot dangle around and get twisted. The straps were easy to get to and easy to pull. The release was the standard “big black” with the release ring attached to the red-line. The red-line did not get in the way at all and very well integrated. The swivel worked well. There were two nice patches on the canopy where the inflate and deflate nozzles may press against the canopy when sitting on the beach. The build quality looked very good as well.

Performance:
The Kahoona definitely has a lot of grunt. The kite does not scream upwind like the HP, but does a damn good job. Once I got it dialed in after a few tacks I was cutting upwind pretty well. The kite has grunt, and if you give it a few strokes you gain quite some speed and it keeps it going but it does not ask to be worked all the time like the HP’s. It is more of a park and ride like the Waroo’s. The depower was great. Considering the wind I was in and the gusts, it just swallowed them up. Jumping was a very strange experience. I am still learning jumping. With the HP’s I find that I was going maybe 7 feet or so and with the Kahoona maybe 5-6 feet. (verified by beach goers). The 2008 HP just rips you off the water, takes you up and then takes you down. With the Kahoona, you are launched up but with a lot less of that violent fling. And then when you get there, it just holds you there, you get that floaty feeling. And then it lets you back down. The turning was spot on. Even with slack lines when I went too far downwind on toeside transitions it would turn well. The canopy did not flutter at all.

Suitability:
This kite fits what I do very well. Currently I ride flat water 75% of the time and just do jumps for now. The other 25% I am in waves. I want to take it in the direction of big air jumps rather than handle pass kind of things. I really feel this would work for that as you get that float at the apex of jumps. I didn’t get to try it in the waves but I think it would be a killer. It flies well with slack lines so you don’t need to worry about riding the wave, it is quick to respond and powerful, so it can get you on and off the wave on command. The grunt and stability combined with the amazing depower and relaunch would also make it suitable for beginners. Not to mention the price point.

Improvements:
I would add a pump leash between the inflate and deflate valves on the LE. I would change the length of the leaders of the bridle in order to make the red-line bar lines of equal length and that would allow the use of the red line bar on all your kites. This seems a bit more elegant than having a pigtail kit to standardize the red line bar. Maybe add one size bigger, a 15.5 since I am a big guy.

Conclusion: It is a great kite that seems more intuitive to me than the HP or the Waroo. It is a great addition into the Delta market. Needless to say I am selling my HP’s. Any takers?

Thanks http://www.GreenHatKiteBoarding.com for letting me take this monster for a spin.
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Postby arealhuman » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:08 pm

'Spreading The Love' Kahoona Competition- Kite Review Template.

Kite Model: Waroo
Kite size: 16
Bar: The big one
Riding conditions: Whatever we’ve got,..at least 12 up to 28+++
Rider Weight: 205 when in shape,…but up to,…more,…like 228,…hay she left me! I eat when I’m sad!!!!
Board: 144 Slingshot and a 6 ft. Custom Directional called “De Bugga”

Kite Package: List your opinion on the overall kite package, accessories and spares etc? ---It went together well, was easy to understand and rig without knowing a damn thing, a friggin idiot can do it. I proved that!


Build Quality and finish: How is it made, what is it made of, how does it last? ---How is it made,…I guess you guys got it sewn together in some third world place by a bunch of people who have no idea what they are making, but they do it really well! I was thinking about these cute little folks, winding up lines and tying up the kite with little strips of Dacron. Who were these people that make me so happy? It’s been really durable, I beat the heck out of it!


Handling: Ease of use, safety, relaunch, set up and pack-down? ---Are you kidding??? I started in the two line days. The Waroo was my first Bow kite. It’s like asking, “was your first kiss enjoyable.” Excuse me I have to go right now,………Tina,……….ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh…………


Key Product features: What are the standout features, what do they do, why are they important to you? ---The depowerability, I still remember my S****shot 17 F**l dragging me downwind with a plume of water over my head, doing my Michael Phelps head turn to get a breath,…without the bong. So I do a spectacular wipe out on the Waroo and the damn thing is just sitting there,…all friggin happy and ready to go!!! Like a damn Golden Lab,…ready to play some more!!!!


Performance: How does it perform, upwind, jumping, depower, turning? ---It performs better than I do! I don’t feel like it is holding me back, I moved the lines around a little but never felt like there was something that I wanted to do, that it wouldn’t do.


Suitability: How does this kite suit your riding, what type of rider would enjoy it? ---It can handle more wind than they say it will and I can eeek out some great light wind sailing on days where it will just barely fly. It is the main kite for me. It’s versatile and I think most riders would like it, freeriders, wave guys, upwind freaks like me. I have gotten some tremendous air with this dork!


Improvements: How would you improve the kite, what would make it perfect? ---The only think that would make it more perfect would be a scholarship to Cabarette, Puerto Rico, St. Martin (my favourite) and Hatteras in the summer. I’ll be down at Crandon next week,…I mean,..I have some important business in Florida and,….maybe I can get a little kite time while visiting my Mom,..unless she gets sick,….then I really should leave early so I don’t catch her cold!


Conclusion: Overall thoughts on the kite --- I love this kite! I recommended it to everyone I know. I wish I would have had this instead of those two ine deals I had in the beginning, I would have been up and riding much sooner and safer instead of being dragged into the reefs at Cabarette. It relaunches like a dream, depowers so safely that you feel confident you can get out of any messes you get into, it goes up wind when you let it fly. This is my favourite kite out of the 8 or 9 that I have! I’m just going to keep using it until I wear it out and then get the newest one out. Hell, if the economy picks up a little, I might get a new one and give somebody a great swap meet or eBay deal! Do you get it? I love this kite!!!

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Postby Johnny_Miami » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:33 pm

Kite Model: Best Trainer
Kite size: 3 M
Bar: 2 line trainer bar
Riding conditions: windy beach or land
Rider Weight: 240...yeah yeah its a new years resolution
Board: N/A

Kite Package:

My Best trainer kite came in a crisp and stylish bag. Logo is on the front but is not obscene.

Build Quality and finish:

This 3M kite is a damn near indestructible kite! As a beginner to kiteboarding, you can rest easy knowing when you dump this dork into the ground….because you will….that it will keep up with your learning cure. The stitching of the kite is very tight and I noticed no flaws or loose stitches. The red glow of the kite in the sun and mysticism of the Best flying fish emblem give it an unforgettable allure.

Handling:

I was amazed at the ease of set up. Watching the videos online and looking through the magazines I thought setup would take me a half hour. A short walk up wind to lay out the kite and bridles and a short walk downwind to lay out the 2 lines and bar make this one of the quickest and easiest setups around. I usually use water bottles to hold the kite down and since you get thirsty from flying all day it works out well, plus they slide off the kite easy. Set up is 5 minutes max, less your walk to the beach to get rolling of course . To break it down was just as simple. It will take the average person about a half hour to master keeping it in the air but like any sport or profession your education will be ongoing and constant.


Key Product features:

The ease of set up and the reputation of Best kites make this product virtually unbeatable. The kite safety leash is feature great allowing beginners to virtually press STOP if the feel out of control or in trouble. It taught me that its ok to bail out, with larger kites safety is a must.

On the beach I fill the kite bag with sand to anchor the kite leash to it when I need a rest or am ready to pack it in. This assures me that there is no ghost flying happening on my walk to upwind to the kite.

Performance:

This was my favorite part. After my first half hour of fumbling with the kite to keep it airborne I felt as if I was the kite. It cuts crisply through the air and had a light hum as it cut left and right through the air. Twisting and turning, figure eights and kite loops, a steady balance of both arms made the kite stand still as it begged me to drop it into the wind window again. It makes you feel like the Red Barron of the beach!



Suitability:

Without a doubt in my mind this kite was built for one individual specifically – you! Geared beginner in mind it taught me the basics of kite control and wind but will never be inadequate for me as an advanced rider.

Improvements:

The kite does exactly what it’s designed to do, train. Safety is not always a forethought in beginners head so the safety leash is a great feature but I have had trouble sometimes trying to pack it in with higher winds on land. A stake that can be “driven by wind”, no not really , a stake that can be driven by hand into the ground may be a nice feature. It would allow a single individual to attach his/her kite killer leach to the stake allowing them to disconnect the kite with out fear of ghost flying.


Conclusion:

A killer kite from A – Z! Beginners and advanced riders both will have fun and learn new techniques with this kite. The thrill of flying a kite that is not made of tooth picks and construction paper has me on top of the world and begging for more. I am stoked to get into a harness this summer and hopefully get me hands on a Kahoona.

Best’s reputation and mystic flying fish logo will have beach goer’s swooning over the action this little kite provides. My 3M trainer truly is the Red Barron of the beach!
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Spread the love all over me please...

Postby patrick.israel » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:35 pm

'Spreading The Love' Kahoona Competition- Kite Review Template.

Kite Model: 2007 yarga
Kite size:13
Bar:stock
Riding conditions:15-25mph waves/semi-flat
Rider Weight:185lbs
Board:surfboard and 133 float

Kite Package: Came with everything I needed to get going. I actually got a kite that had a twisted bladder and on my first flight, something went terribly wrong and ended up throwing me around the beach. The reason I like BEST is because they solved the problem and sent me a brand new kite to replace the other one asap. No charge. I was stoked. I mean, every company is gonna have some production problems, but most of the time you have to go through some hassle to resolve the issue. Not this time, I just called them up, sent them a picture, and my new kite was at my door in 3 days. Not bad FL to CA.


Build Quality and finish: Excellent quality. Tough enough to handle the surf, but still light and quick in the air.

Handling: easy on line relaunch, just pull and go. Quick turning, especially for a 13M.


Key Product features: I like the customization that was possible. All the different settings made it fun to toy with. I also really liked the relaunch. I’m going to crash every session, and if the kite doesn’t go right up, it can be a session ender, especially in the surf.

Performance: Everything was really good. Nice feel in the hands, fast relaunch, It did everything I needed it to do.


Suitability: Perfect fit. It was fun for unhooked freestyle, and fun for waves. I think this kite would work for just about anyone. I was able to teach my friends who had no experience kiting no problem. They use to try my old C-kites and thought it was too hard to relaunch


Improvements: I would say to make it better, you need to build an anti-theft device in to the kite. I loved that Yarga, and would still be rocking it if I didn’t have it stolen from my car… twice! I got one jacked while I was at work. I got another one online for pretty cheap and was stoked. It wasn’t my favorite color, but the kite is more important. Then, less than a month later, someone stole my ENTIRE CAR, kite included. The cops eventually found my car, but my kite and about $1,000 worth in other stuff (surfboard, camera lens etc) were gone. Right crap. Couldn’t afford to get another kite, so I’ve been rocking my old C-kites.

Conclusion: Stoked on the kite. I was a little bummed that the 08 was so different. C-kites are super fun, and best for me, but that 07 Yarga was such a winner I didn’t know why it was changed so much
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